29 Questions &
30 Answers
Jerry Grence
from NM asked:
July 29, 2018
difference between ICE870 and ACE870?
1 Answer
Hi Jerry
The biggest difference is in the design of the frame. The ICE870 has a standard frame design so it has a 3/4" border all the way around. This standard frame design has been around for more than 25 years or more. The new design featured on the ACE870 is what we call a Trim less design sometimes referred to as a bezel-less design. We introduced it based a couple years ago based upon the specs of the ICE-870. So it really comes down to the application where you are trying to match the other speakers used in your custom Home Theater or even your whole house audio. Both are excellent speakers. The ACE870 has a larger magnet, handles more power, also has a wider Frequency response with more bottom end, slightly more efficient and handlers 25 more watts RMS per channel. Typically I recommend using the 8" angled speaker for the Front stage LCR and the 6.5" version for the Surround or effects speaker (Dolby ATMOS or DTS:X). Hopefully, that helps with your decision process.
TL/5135
Tim Leahy
on August 1, 2018
NC
from Florida asked:
March 28, 2018
Hi, I need a recommendation for which speakers to purchase for my 700sqft living room. I have a new build and it's pre-wired for 5.1 surround sound. I had OSD speakers in my previous home but, I had professional to purchase and install the speaker. All I can recall was that they were premium 8' OSD and this was 6 years ago but, that doesn't really tell me anything. I plan on installing the speakers myself this go around. Thanks in advance!
NC
1 Answer
Hi NC:
What speakers are you looking for for the front stage, In-wall Left/Center/right or In-ceiling. I am assuming you are looking for In-ceiling for surround. What receiver are you looking at, 7.2 or 5.1. Have you looked at Receiver with Dolby Atmos and DTS/X? What furniture do you have in the room? Have you checked out our Sub woofers?
tim@osdaudio.com
TL/4873
Tim Leahy
on April 15, 2018
Kevin
from michigan asked:
August 30, 2016
I'm trying to determine the difference between the MK870 and the ACE870.
The only difference i see is the price and very small difference in sensitivity.
Can you better explain where I would see an advantage between the two?
I'm looking into doing a 7.1.4 system, turning existing garage into HT room and using these as my overheads. Approximate dimension of 24 x 18. This will be stripped down to the studs so I'm not hampered too much in placement, but I want the best placement/speaker for the room
How about the MK850 as an option too.
1 Answer
Hi Kevin:
The difference between the MK-870 and the ACE870 is mainly cosmetic. The MK870 features a standard frame/grill design and the ACE-870 features a new Trim-less (grill exposed only, no frame) design. Otherwise they are almost identical. The angled design was created as an LCR speaker to be used for a front stage Left/Center/Right speakers. Because of the angle you can mount the speakers closer to the wall that the TV will be mounted on. Standard speakers (non angled like the MK-850) should be mounted at least three feet away from an adjacent wall where as the angled speaker can be mounted within a foot and a half of the adjacent wall. This is a big advantage for the front stage but also very effective for surrounds and effects speakers as well. The key to any home theater layout is to have the Tweeter of each speaker pointed towards the Optimum Viewing/Listening area. When you are using tower speaker in conjunction with Bookshelf speakers on stands all on the same plan you have all tweeters on the same line. The same can be accomplish when using In-wall speakers where all tweeters are at he same level. That is the beauty of the In-ceiling angled speaker is that it allows you more flexibility in placement not only for the front stage but also Rear or Center surrounds or effects speakers like Dolby Atmos or DTS:X.
Both the MK-870 and ACE-870 will work for you and maybe the new trim-less design is not important in your Man Cave.
Good choices...
TL/4040
Customer Service - Q&A
on August 30, 2016
Darren
from Atlanta asked:
November 23, 2012
I am considering using these as in-ceiling rear surrounds in a 5.1 setup with bookshelf front and center channels. I'm curious if the angled housing provides any advantage over a straight housing with only a pivoting tweeter.
1 Answer
Hi Darren,
The biggest advantage to angled in-ceiling speakers is the flexibility for finding the optimum placement for your surrounds. The ideal placement for any surround speaker is to have the tweeter pointing directly at the ideal viewing/listening/seating area. A standard in-wall needs to be mounted almost directly above and the tweeter is limited to a 15% pivoting angle. You also want to be at least three feet from the wall to avoid reflections. With angled in-ceiling speakers, you can mount the speaker further back and closer to a wall if needed, thus opening up your possibilities.
TL/MA 1402
Customer Service - Q&A
on November 23, 2012
Darrell H.
from Decatur, Illinois asked:
January 16, 2018
I need to install rear speakers in the ceiling. I am using the MKW-850 for my left & right surrounds. If I want to install 4 additional in-ceiling speakers for 11.2 Dolby Atmos set-up, where should I place them? Currently my main listening area is about 6 feet from the rear wall. How close should I install the rear in-ceiling surround speakers, & where should I install the 4 over-head Dolby Atmos speakers. Also, I would like your recommendation on right & left front speakers, & center channel. My room is 17 feet left to right by 19 feet 8" front to back. My main listening area is about 13 feet 6" from the television. What speakers do you recommend to complete what I am currently using in regards to the Dolby Atmos speakers also.
1 Answer
HI Darrel:
I would like to get more information on your complete setup. Images of the room from a number of angles would be great. What speakers have you already purchased including Subs? What 11.2 Receiver are you planning on using.
I have a number of speaker that will work for you. Please contact me at tim@osdaudio.com.
TL/4755
Customer Service - Q&A
on January 18, 2018
Magnus
from Norway, Stavanger asked:
June 21, 2016
Looking for the ICE850 or this MK870 for my living room. Does the MK870 comes with a grill plate like ICE850? It does not show on the pictures...
1 Answer
Hi Magnus:
The MK870 does come with a grill (you are right there is none featured in the images). All our architectural speakers feature paint able frames and grills. We also have a new trim-less version the ACE870. Both ICE/MK and ACE series feature Kevlar Cones and Titanium Metal Dome Tweeters and Butyl Rubber Surrounds. They all feature 15 degree angled woofers with pivoting Tweeters (another 5 degrees) and contour switches for the Tweeters (+3/0/-3 dB). Ideal for LCR speakers, Surround/Effects Speakers or even whole house audio speakers providing more installation options.
All great Choices...
TL/3944
Customer Service - Q&A
on June 21, 2016
Joel
from https://yhosting.kingwebmaster.com/temp/osd asked:
May 24, 2016
How is this MK870 different from the MK850 aside from being angled? The specs look very much the same.
1 Answer
Hi Joel:
They are basically the same speaker with a different frame. The frame for the MK-870/670 angles the speaker 15% and the the pivoting tweeter adds another 5% or 20% total. The angled speaker's original application was for Custom Home Theater for front stage LCR; Left, Center and Right channels where floor standing, bookshelf, in-wall speakers were not an option. With the angle it would allow you to mount these closer to the wall where the TV would be mounted. We also found that with the angle it gave us more flexibility or mounting options for Surround and DOLBY ATMOS In-ceiling speakers as well.
We recommend and sell these speakers for many applications especially with the new MK-870 and MK-670 Trim-less design.
TL/3895
Customer Service - Q&A
on May 25, 2016
Richard
from California asked:
April 5, 2015
What is the height of the speaker from the base to the top? In other words, will it fit in the space I have between in the space I've got in the ceiling?
Thanks!
1 Answer
Hi Richard:
Mounting depth 5 7/8 and should fit into a ceiling with joists of 6 or 8 inches in height.
TL/3224
Customer Service - Q&A
on April 13, 2015
ken
from las vegas nv asked:
February 9, 2015
when are you going to get this speaker in stock?
1 Answer
The ICE870 is coming back as the MK870 and should be available sometime in March or April.
Customer Service - Q&A
on February 11, 2015
Stephen
from Ontario Canada asked:
November 12, 2014
Confused,,,,,,do you no longer carry this or is it out of stock ?
2 Answers
Hi Stephen,
We will be receiving this model in again but it probably won't be available until sometime in December.
Customer Service - Q&A
on November 26, 2014
Hi Stephen,
We will be receiving this model in again but it probably won't be available until sometime in December.
Customer Service - Q&A
on November 26, 2014
Iggy
from Austin Tx asked:
July 18, 2014
how many watts do these speakers handle
1 Answer
Hi Iggy,
They can handle 175w but we no longer carry this speaker.
Customer Service - Q&A
on July 18, 2014
Nick
from Tampa, Florida asked:
April 25, 2014
Do you have a time frame on when these will be available? I need 3.
Thanks
1 Answer
Hi Nick,
This speaker has been discontinued, however we are bringing in a new speaker line and will have a thin bezel, 8" angled kevlar speaker similar to this. Hopefully we'll have these sometime later this year, but not anytime soon. For now, go with the MK670 if you need angled ceiling speakers.
BM
2639
Customer Service - Q&A
on April 25, 2014
Steve
from Maryland asked:
November 21, 2013
Do these speakers accept banana plugs? Thanks
1 Answer
Hi Steve,
The speaker terminals on the back are bare wire terminals, meaning you do not need banana plugs, nor will it accept them. Very easy install. Let us know if you have further questions. Thanks!
BM
-2343
Customer Service - Q&A
on November 26, 2013
Kenny
from Washington, PA asked:
October 7, 2013
Framing in a sealed enclosure in my new ceiling... I have trusses constructed out of 2x6's spaced at 24"... This would give me by default two of my dimensions as 22.5" & 5.5". Was planning on giving the enclosure a length of 10.5" for a set of dimensions of 22.5" x 5.5" x 10.5" (all internal). This would give me an enclosure with approx. 0.75ft^3 internal volume...somewhere in the ideal range for an 8" woofer, (or so I've read). First question: any thoughts on this plan? Improvements?
Also, the ICE870 angled speaker is spec-ed at a depth of 5-7/8"...my internal dimensions depth is only 5-1/2" + perhaps 5/8" drywall thickness. This gives me EXACTLY 5-7/8" of depth. Second question: can I assumed that at least SOME (perhaps 1/8-1/4") of the spec-ed depth is accounted for in the face/bezel which will be outside the enclosed space, thus giving me the wiggle-room I need inside? In short, am I safe with my proposed enclosure depth? Or do I need to make it deeper? (More work!)
1 Answer
Hi Kenny:
Your math looks good for the 8"
Regarding the angled in-ceiling speakers you might need to drop down to one of Kevlar 6.5" speakers with the mounting depth 5 inches or less.
TS-2266
Customer Service - Q&A
on October 18, 2013
mike
from atlanta, GA asked:
October 3, 2013
Can any of the angle speakers be installed in a covered screen patio?
1 Answer
Hi Mike,
They are not moisture-resistant speakers, so I would advise against it. How well covered is the patio?
-BM
2256
Customer Service - Q&A
on October 17, 2013
Farrokh
from Redwood City, CA asked:
July 7, 2013
Question1: For the ceiling angled speaker ICE870 the Owner's manual defines the unit as pair. is thesale price of $109.99 for one unit (a pair)?
Question 2: Can I use identical speakers (ICE879) for all 5 ceiling speakers for a 5.1 arrangement?
Appreciate quick response.
1 Answer
The ICE870 angled in-ceiling LCR speaker is sold as a single speaker, and not a pair. Yes, you can use 3 ICE870 up front and 2 ICE870 in back. For best results, angle the speakers directly at the primary listening area. You can get an additional 10 degree angle in the tweeter.
-BM
2063
Customer Service - Q&A
on July 12, 2013
Maurizio
from fort myers fl asked:
May 26, 2013
Will these work with a sony surround receiver?
1 Answer
HI Maurizio,
Yes, the ICE870 ceiling speaker will work with any 8-ohm receiver.
CL/MA 1933
Customer Service - Q&A
on May 31, 2013
Dave
from Colleyville, tx asked:
May 26, 2013
I have a large room (20 x 26), with 22 foot ceilings. Will be putting the 5 speakers in the ceiling corners and front center. With ceilings this tall, do I need these angled speakers, or would the ICE850 work going straight down?
1 Answer
Hi Dave,
The angled speakers are great for directing your sound right at your listening area. If your speaker placement is more than 2 feet away from directly above your couch, then use an angled speaker. If not, use a down-firing speaker like the ICE850.
CL/MA 1932
Customer Service - Q&A
on May 31, 2013
Bradley
from Washington by way of Italy asked:
May 24, 2013
I have a new home pre-wired for 5.1. The front install locations look like they are about 2 ft from wall (only seen pics so far as house isn't complete). The rear look like they are about 4 ft from wall. I am seriously considering the ICE870 Angled for the fronts and Center and then the ICE640 for the rears. I currently have already purchased a Polk PSW505 sub and will either be purchasing a Denon 1613, Onkyo TX-NR515, or Yamaha HTR-4065. The room is 18.5 X 17 and I'm wondering how these would sound with either of the receivers.
1 Answer
Hi Bradley,
By far the Kevlar series are our most popular. The lightweight Kevlar is the lightest, strongest material we offer so the driver moves with precision and ease. You will notice more details in your audio and they sound better than most speakers when pushed harder. Consider using Kevlar for your rears as well, the 8" ICE850 or 6.5" ICE650
CL/MA 1930
Customer Service - Q&A
on May 31, 2013
Carl
from Houston area asked:
April 8, 2013
Setting up a 5.1 surround sound home theater system in my family room. Room is 22' X 20 and I want to use 5 of these speakers to cover center, and front and rear left/right channels for the system with an existing powered sub woofer. Ceilings are 10' in the room.
Also want to have 3 additional zones/pairs of speakers and I have a SR-TX605 Onkyo receiver with A&B channels powered. Would like to power all the speakers and provide option for 2 sources of audio. Trying to get a handle on what additional hardware required? Volume controls, speaker selectors, amps, etc.
1 Answer
Hi Carl,
To summarize, you have one receiver and need to power three additional zones. An excellent choice would be the AMP200 amplifier along with the DSM4 Dual Source 4 Zone Speaker Selector, plus three VMS300 volume controls. Consider even adding four volume controls as you might expand later and it's best to keep the volume controls in ratio to the speaker pairs. We also have audio wall plates that will give your whole house audio system a clean finish (the WP12 is tailored to a 5.1). Don't forget, we carry in-wall, CL-rated speaker cable as well.
CL/MA 1780
Customer Service - Q&A
on April 9, 2013
wesley workman
from Fresno ca. asked:
March 15, 2013
Hi, I have four of the ice870 angled kevlar lcr 8" ceiling speakers. I am getting ready to install them. My question is that there seems to be a thin piece of fabric on the inside of the speaker grill/cover. Does that need to be removed or left as is? If it is left in place what effect does it has to sound quality when painted?
Thanks
Wes
1 Answer
Hi Wesley,
The cloth is purely for aesthetics and has no effect on sound quality. It’s there so you cannot see the speaker driver through the grille. Please remove it before you spray paint the grills. You can leave it off or put it back when the paint has dried.
CL/MA 1704
Customer Service - Q&A
on March 18, 2013
SAM
from LA CA asked:
December 14, 2012
Hi, I have an angled ceiling about 18 feet high. Can I use these ceiling speakers?
1 Answer
Hi Sam,
You can go with angled ceiling speaker for your high ceilings. The tweeters pivot in all of the speakers in this series, but the ICE870's will give you an additional 15 degrees. The key is aiming them directly at your listening area.
CL/MA 1466
Customer Service - Q&A
on December 14, 2012
Ben's CPU
from chicago, IL asked:
October 31, 2012
i have an angled ceiling...what speakers would be best for this application? The room is not too large bt the ceiling presents a problem...any ideas???
1 Answer
Hi Ben,
When in-ceiling speakers are used for background music (instead of critical listening or Surround Sound), we recommend an 8" speaker over 6.5" and two pair versus one pair. For the ultimate coverage, OSD offers in-ceiling speakers that feature Dual Voice Coils and Dual Tweeters. The rule of thumb is to mount the in-ceiling speaker at least three feet from the walls to avoid reflections; however, with angled ceilings like your application, you would mount the speakers closer to the wall. We recommend using dual voice coil speakers such as our ICE640TT as a stereo pair (utilizing the 8/16 ohm application switch set to 8 ohm while only connecting a single voice coil). If you have the room for two pair of DVC speakers, this would give you 8 tweeters and almost double your prime listening area. We also offer a step up speaker the MK690TT which features a Kevlar Cone and a trim-less grill design (check it out). We would recommend connecting the two pairs of speakers (if you have the room) as a right and left on one side and left and right on the other. If you send me the dimensions of the room a digital picture or two, I can clarify this further. My email is tim@osdaudio.com. Thank you for considering OSD Audio.
TL
TL/MA
1352
Customer Service - Q&A
on November 1, 2012
Nimish
from chicago, il asked:
August 6, 2012
This speaker is out of stock until Aug. 31. How realistic is this? I am in need of 4 of these speakers. Any chance this speaker is availble anytime earlier? Can you please give me an accurate date?
1 Answer
Hi Nim:
The latest word is the ICE870 are not scheduled to arrive until mid September. The next alternative is the MK670 LCR speaker which is currently scheduled to be here before the end of August. They share the same tweeter and also feature Kevlar cones.
TL
Customer Service - Q&A
on August 8, 2012
Martin
from oklahoma asked:
June 21, 2012
I have a 20' x 18' living room. Do you recommend I go with the 6 1/2 or 8"? I have 10' ceilings. And is there a box for the ceiling speakers so attic insulation does not interfere?
1 Answer
Hi Martin,
You have a room that would be fine with 6.5" or 8" - I wouldn't say you need an 8" speaker but it wouldn't hurt, The BB8 back box will work with this speaker - Here is a link https://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/ceiling-speaker-back-box-8-inch.html
CL
Customer Service - Q&A
on June 25, 2012
Nick C
from Spring Hill FL asked:
April 29, 2012
Do these accept 12G speaker wire?
1 Answer
Hi Nick:
The push terminals will accept 12 Gauge. We do sell a 12/2 CL3 rated speaker wire as well.
TL
Customer Service - Q&A
on May 1, 2012
Nick C
from Spring Hill FL asked:
April 28, 2012
Looking to install a 7.1 system in a 17.5 X 12.5 room. Can I use 6 of these for my surround sound or do you recommend a different configuration? Also I live in single story house and my ceiling is open to the roof with only insulation between will I have a problem with sound loss? Was thinking of using Mineral wool to try and block sound any luck with that?
1 Answer
Nick,
These should work perfect for you application the angle allows you to place the speakers closer to the wall above the Monitor for the left and right assuming you have a different speaker for the center channel (you can use a ICE870 for center channel as well, we sell them as each). They also work well for surrounds again allowing to be placed closer to the side walls. the center surrounds should be mounted to the left and right of your seating area and the rear surrounds placed four to five feet behind the seating area with the pivoting tweeter aimed at the seating location. The Mineral wool would help in the ceiling as long as it would not be shedding.
CL
Customer Service - Q&A
on April 30, 2012
Matt
from West Virginia asked:
March 18, 2012
I'm looking to install either 6.5" or 8" speakers in the celing tiles of a drop ceiling in my basement. Do I need to use a bracket or will the ceiling tile support the weight of the speaker?
1 Answer
Matt,
The optional bracket would be great support for speaker in a drop ceiling. For the ICE870, we list the OSD-NCBC8-K. (Brackets are listed in the features and specs for each speaker)
CL
Customer Service - Q&A
on March 19, 2012
Stefan
from Stockholm, Sweden asked:
November 22, 2011
Has anyone tried to paint over these to match the ceiling better?
1 Answer
Stefan:
All of our in-ceiling and in-wall speakers are paintable. Included in the box is a cutout template that also doubles as a paint shield that can be placed under the grill while you paint both the frame and grill together. Spray painting is recommended.
TL
Customer Service - Q&A
on November 22, 2011
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